tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727602506260409852.post2586390754724107476..comments2014-02-05T15:21:43.206+00:00Comments on Harp from the Willows: Covenant Theology at the CareyMostyn Robertshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11813875470448809096noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727602506260409852.post-21240354134874529532012-01-09T17:42:37.997+00:002012-01-09T17:42:37.997+00:00Matthew,
Many thanks for the comment; it is alwa...Matthew,<br /><br />Many thanks for the comment; it is always encouraging to know someone reads the blogs!<br /><br />My understanding of the Hebrews passages would be (and until a few years ago would have been unchallenged), that the people referred to as falling away are apostates and in no way in a covenantal relationship with the Lord. That is still my view and I guess would be the view of most Baptists. Sam Waldron did not refer to these passages, and Greg Nichols in the book I referred to takes this view I believe on the basis that some hypocrites will always get into the covenant number of the visible church. <br /><br />I say 'until a few year ago' because then I came across for the first time the view of some Presbyterians who say that such people who fall away are also in some covenantal relationship with the Lord - a physical or external aspect of the new covenant, or in some other way implying that there is some breakable aspect to the new covenant. I have to say I was amazed to read this, and still am not persuaded by it. The former interpretation is still very much mine.<br /><br />In grace (and I am glad to know you are up and well after your long illness - one of our members was with you over Christmas I believe for a service),<br /><br />Mostyn.Mostyn Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11813875470448809096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727602506260409852.post-45005515162008827432012-01-09T07:16:29.021+00:002012-01-09T07:16:29.021+00:00Hi Mostyn, always enjoy reading your blog! Hope yo...Hi Mostyn, always enjoy reading your blog! Hope you are well.<br />When the point 'everyone in the new covenant will infallibly be saved' was made was there any engagement with texts like Heb 6:4-8 or Heb 10:26-29 and if so how were they understood? <br />I ask because it was those texts that led me to embrace a paedo-baptist position. It was because I understood these texts to mean there would be people in the new covenant who could/would fall away that helped convince me to reject the baptist position. <br />And on a second question: Is it necessary to believe in the infallibility of the new covenant in order to uphold the baptist position? <br />Thanks for any insight you can share. <br />Your servant, Matthew JolleyMatthew Jolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08999678184237957570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727602506260409852.post-42127243411133708062012-01-07T19:08:13.540+00:002012-01-07T19:08:13.540+00:00Thanks Jonathan - which college is that?Thanks Jonathan - which college is that?Mostyn Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11813875470448809096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4727602506260409852.post-23240384854028167592012-01-05T23:36:39.236+00:002012-01-05T23:36:39.236+00:00NCT has a seminary dedicated to it now!
It is not...NCT has a seminary dedicated to it now!<br /><br />It is not going out of fashion yet.Jonathan Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12341478626195362383noreply@blogger.com